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when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and again trying to get the people most hopped up about it and think that one step is going to lead to another step is going to lead to rhetoric, like which is not really very temperate. it makes me feel like -- do you mean we shornt even discuss this, wait until the bodies pile a little bit higher? >> i don't know at what point. >> human beings have been stacked like hardwood, and theaters and schools have been turned into kill zones. we are having a moment nationally, locally, everywhere. if this isn't a good time and a right time to talk about both the value and the limits of the second amendment, i d
when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and...
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arguments, yes, they are single issue and there may be a lot of opponents to the nra, but the nra's argument is several fold, and it includes the fact that this kind of legislation, in their view, simply will not work, will not deal with the problem. high-capacity magazines, there are so many of them that the ability to somehow stamp them out of existence through new regulation doesn't deal with their ability to be trafficked within the country. the same is true of what are called assault weapons, so i think that part of the argument that will go forward is going to be on the merits about what is actually effective in combatting this kind of violence and whether there's enough resources being dedicated to, you know, the ability to track people's mental health or lack thereof and their capacity to commit crime as they are trying to run down 30-bullet magazine clips. the president's argument here, though, is similar to the nra's. when the nra says we should have armed guards in schools, they are saying if there is any potential to diminish the carnage in a situation like this, then we
arguments, yes, they are single issue and there may be a lot of opponents to the nra, but the nra's argument is several fold, and it includes the fact that this kind of legislation, in their view, simply will not work, will not deal with the problem. high-capacity magazines, there are so many of them that the ability to somehow stamp them out of existence through new regulation doesn't deal with their ability to be trafficked within the country. the same is true of what are called assault...
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sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to have another newtown. i think constantly he has said shouldn't we be doing the best that we can be doing? shouldn't we try to have more effective gun safety laws? shouldn't we try to understand an interlinkage between violence in the media and violence in our cities and schools? >> i'm not faulting the president on either his messaging or his intent, but i think that sort of realistically when you look at things like the assault weapons ban, there's no evidence that the one that we had any impact. maybe it will do something different with it next time, but, many of the, the stuff that's within the kind o
sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to...
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there are a lot of people in the nra, but 90% of the country is not in the nra. so where is the disconnect here, is it just because the nra has more money or is better organized? i do think there's been an infliction point since newtown, sam. >> part of what the nra has been very effective at is creating a boogey man obama, this is what he's going to do. what wayne lapierre was talking about there, the federal database, i'm pretty sure that's not in the president's proposal to have a federal database of every gun that's owned. he does want to do background checks, but there's things obama could have done that he didn't, such as constricting the sales of guns one to a week. if we're talking about absolutisms, we have to ask, does wayne lapierre support no background checks, is he comfortable with mentally insane people buying grenade launchers? i don't think anyone, including virtually all of the nra membership, is comfortable with no regulations whatsoever, but that's what wayne lapierre, i thought, was saying last night. >> what is strange to me and somewhat dis
there are a lot of people in the nra, but 90% of the country is not in the nra. so where is the disconnect here, is it just because the nra has more money or is better organized? i do think there's been an infliction point since newtown, sam. >> part of what the nra has been very effective at is creating a boogey man obama, this is what he's going to do. what wayne lapierre was talking about there, the federal database, i'm pretty sure that's not in the president's proposal to have a...
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side-by-side of this meeting with the nra leadership, we're having many nra members and gun owners greater capacity coming to us and saying the nra doesn't represent me. they saw that press conference right after the shooting in newtown, and said this is not what we think should be done in this country. we're having so many people come to us and saying we support you. background checks makes sense. that's not going to stop me fre owning a gun. the realities of what people like alex jones scream about on tv couldn't really be further from the truth of what we're actually discussing with the administration and people on capitol hill and the average american citizen who is calling on us to make sure something gets done. >> the average american says -- and i want to open this up to our foulkes in new york -- the average voice the americans is something that's often lost. as someone who has serveed in iraq and owned and held guns, you have experience in the military. there is a culture in america around guns that is actually very, very different from what happens in the military, but it's sort
side-by-side of this meeting with the nra leadership, we're having many nra members and gun owners greater capacity coming to us and saying the nra doesn't represent me. they saw that press conference right after the shooting in newtown, and said this is not what we think should be done in this country. we're having so many people come to us and saying we support you. background checks makes sense. that's not going to stop me fre owning a gun. the realities of what people like alex jones scream...
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in the piece they write that the nra is absolutist in their interpretation of the second amendment. >> the president was asked today about gun sales and the fact that since newtown gun sales have increased, and we're seeing sort of that trend born out, which is to say the more people feel threatened that perhaps they may not be able to get their bushmaster rifles, the more they go out and buy them, but the more ob stinent the argument against any sort of gun reform becomes. >> right. i mean, one of the things that happens every time people think they're going to be more strict gun laws, you know, they go out and buy more guns, and i understand that. i thought what the president said is exactly right. you start with a blunt package going for all the things that you think will help. the question i have -- i actually believe the white house really doesn't know this. the president himself said had. just counting noses, how far ool actually get with the vote. it makes sense to start here. if you are, by the way, heard governor o'malley. a great progressive agenda, including fingerprints if
in the piece they write that the nra is absolutist in their interpretation of the second amendment. >> the president was asked today about gun sales and the fact that since newtown gun sales have increased, and we're seeing sort of that trend born out, which is to say the more people feel threatened that perhaps they may not be able to get their bushmaster rifles, the more they go out and buy them, but the more ob stinent the argument against any sort of gun reform becomes. >>...
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it's not the power of the nra, matt. what it is is the strength of belief among millions of americans in their right under the constitution to privately own firearms. >> no one anywhere is talking about doing away with the second amendment, and no one anywhere is advocating stripping away gun ownership. what began this debate nearly one month ago next week was a massacre in a small town elementary school and a national resolution to keep america's children safer, but at some point that desire to better protect has been undermined by an extreme wythe right wing that seems more concerned with better protecting their firearms. ted nugent said yesterday, "there will come a time when the gun owners of america will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus, case closed." somehow, according to this twisted logic, questioning the necessity of bushmaster rifles and high capacity magazines has become a violation of basic civil rights on par with the racist era of jim crow, and anyone who suggests that it
it's not the power of the nra, matt. what it is is the strength of belief among millions of americans in their right under the constitution to privately own firearms. >> no one anywhere is talking about doing away with the second amendment, and no one anywhere is advocating stripping away gun ownership. what began this debate nearly one month ago next week was a massacre in a small town elementary school and a national resolution to keep america's children safer, but at some point that...
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the nra was notoriously unsuccessful in the last election term. i create a little pac, and we went against four nra members, in three cases the opponent won. you can beat the nra. >> while the white house task force led by vice president joe biden is considering an array of measures to combat the problem, including reinstating the assault weapons ban, banning high capacity magazines, requiring background and mental health checks, opponents to any changes in the nation's gun laws are using a familiar refrain. >> within minutes we saw politicians run out and try to exploit this tragedy, try to push their political agenda of gun control. >> meanwhile, the chief obstacle to any weapons reform of any kind ever, the nra, stands by this prescription. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> on the first day of the 113th congress no fewer than eight gun control bills were introduced, but the
the nra was notoriously unsuccessful in the last election term. i create a little pac, and we went against four nra members, in three cases the opponent won. you can beat the nra. >> while the white house task force led by vice president joe biden is considering an array of measures to combat the problem, including reinstating the assault weapons ban, banning high capacity magazines, requiring background and mental health checks, opponents to any changes in the nation's gun laws are using...